
Madonna, the iconic singer and cultural figure, recently shared insights into her career and personal philosophy during her first podcast interview on the show, On Purpose with Jay Shetty. The episode, set to air on September 29, 2025, reveals how the 67-year-old artist attributes her enduring success to her spiritual practices.
In a candid discussion with host Jay Shetty, Madonna elaborated on the profound impact spirituality has had on her life. She spoke openly about her journey, touching on themes such as forgiveness, success, and her early encounters with Kabbalah, which she first explored in 1996. This period coincided with the birth of her daughter, Lourdes Leon, marking a significant transition in her life.
Madonna emphasized, “You need to be spiritual to be successful. Success is having a spiritual life, period. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t have one.” This declaration underscores her belief that true success is intertwined with a deeper sense of purpose and connection to others.
Exploring Spirituality and Personal Growth
The conversation also delved into the essence of giving and the importance of service. Madonna stated, “What have I done for others? That’s really the only way you can be successful in life.” She likened this principle to illuminating darkness, explaining, “It’s like the greatest amount of light is where there’s darkness and you can reveal the most amount of light.”
Alongside her insights, the podcast features Eitan Yardeni, Madonna’s longtime Kabbalah teacher. The two recently collaborated on a new course titled The Mystical Studies of the Zohar, which aims to deepen understanding of these spiritual teachings. Their partnership highlights the transformative role that spirituality plays in both their lives.
Reflecting on her past, Madonna acknowledged her vulnerability to external judgments. She articulated, “I was once a slave or victim of other people’s opinions of me. I don’t fit in, and not fitting in is what saves you.” This perspective reveals her journey toward self-acceptance and resilience, elements she credits to her spiritual foundation.
The Role of Spiritual Wisdom in Resilience
Madonna drew a connection between spirituality and resilience, stating, “Spiritual wisdom is not helpful when everything’s going your way. It’s helpful when you’re challenged and when you’re happy.” She urged listeners to appreciate the transient nature of success, reminding them, “At any given time, in any moment, it could be gone. So don’t take it for granted. Have humility.”
Her thoughts on radical acceptance encapsulate a core aspect of her philosophy: “Radical acceptance is just accepting that what is happening to you is meant to happen to you – and that you’re going to be okay.” This message resonates with many, offering a sense of comfort and guidance in navigating life’s uncertainties.
Madonna’s podcast appearance marks a significant moment, not only for her fans but also for those interested in the intersection of spirituality and personal growth. As she continues to influence and inspire, her reflections on the importance of a spiritual life provide a compelling narrative about the deeper motivations behind her remarkable career.